Remarkable insights on the vomit of a lingam

Remarkable insights on the vomit of a 'lingam'

Date: 03-10-04

Source: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sathyasaibaba2/messages

Although http://www.exbaba.com is not a bulletin board, we would like to give some remarkable insights on the vomit of 'lingam' which Sai Baba lately performed, see our article from Sunday, February 29.

Kristijan:

OK i just watched the video again ,frame by frame and it's really interesting. First it looks like a vomit but as it reaches closer to the handkerchief it sparkles at one moment and i seriously doubt it has anything to do with the lightning.

The other interesting thing is that there is almost no lump in the handkerchief until it reaches his mouth ,it's only then when you can really see the lump when puts the hc. on his mouth, the lump gets bigger. Perhaps it's cause the l. was basically created in that hc.,naturally the lump had to appear at that point.But like i said u can't say it's a lump until he puts the hc. on his mouth.

Very interesting, especially if you watch it closely frame by frame. First when i saw the video i thought LOL this is weird,but now i think It's totally Mystic.

Rapistanddemonsathyasaibaba:

Hi Kristijan, When you look at the excellent site http://www.exbaba.com then you will see that there are two fragments of the film that show the vomit, these fragments are the only two within the video, that are able to show the vomit itself, and you see them here: ex-baba/engels/articles/lingam.html 1. The vomit that is coming down is far too few to make a huge ball from that size. Because: 2. You say that there is almost no lump? Well, before the handkerchief reaches the mouth, and I looked at it myself once again, you can obviously see that the size of the lump is much too big in proportion to the vomit he lets fall in the handkerchief. 3. There is a lightning in the the vomit yes, you can see that in the second picture, and in the movie even brighter, but it has to do with the light that comes from Baba's view point from the right, you can see that on the silver coloured cup too, there is a light clance on it coming from the right, and the same light gives the vomit that sparkling moment. I think it is clear that Baba fakes the lingam, it is just like Robert Priddy already stated: 'One can pause the video and examine each frame separately to analyse the movements. From before the alleged 'emergence', SSB is clearly seen to be holding something just about the size of the lingam inside the towel between the thumb and forefinger of his right hand! Now what on earth could that be, one wonders? After the vomit, he lets go of what he was holding in secret and fumbles to extract it with his right hand, taking the lingam from under the towel just where it was being held earlier, and we see a rather confused look of resignation cross his features. It seems that SSB must have lost his nerve on this occasion, for he did not even try producing the lingam from his mouth this time.'

Kristijan:

OMG i just watched it again few times and he really did materialize it, i am now more convinced then ever.OMG i just felt such a strange thing when i saw that moment he was puling the lingam out of the hc.OMG look at it frame by frame with WMP ,OMG the way he pulls the lingam perfectly out.

Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trust me i would never defend him i always give my father a hard time about him.

I am now convinced more then ever.

I saw also the one from the last year and i wasn't impressed at all but this is really something. I looked frame by frame and there is not a light glance on that cup at all not at any moment ,i checked few times.

And the way that lump gets bigger is just amazing.The amount of the "vomit" is irrelevant if he is God, it's all symbolic.

He looks rather mystic like always i didn't see any agony on his face. But I'm Totally impressed !!!!!!!!!!!!!by the way he pulls the lingam out of that hc.I just freaks me out, look carefully at those moments, it's PERFECT.Something is happening within his hands it just gives me shivers. This video is fantastic,he truly is something special.

Amazing!!!!!!!!!

Rapistanddemonsathyasaibaba:

Hi Kristijan, No, it is fake, and the way you are describing your experiences when you see the video is far to exaggerating. You can see the glance on the silver cup all the time, it is the broad white line left from the middle on it, everybody can see this and thus it can't be denied. And then you say that the amount of the vomit is irrelevant if he is God? Sorry, but I think this is a very tendenced remark from you, I think the amount of the vomit is very important, the video doesn't lie and shows clearly what happens, Mr. Baba vomits an insufficient quantity in order to form a ball from that size. I think that you shouldn't look to his face, you must carefully look at his hands, he is just fumbling with his handkerchief in order to mask what he is really doing, grasping a golden ball that was already in his hands before he performed the vomit. The movie is somewhat to unclear to register the lump before the vomit, but you can clearly see, that the distance of Baba's second and third finger is very wide, that is exactly the place where he is holding the golden ball, in Windows Movie Maker this is frame 0:00:00,96 and in frame 0:00:01,04 after it, you can see that the movie is sharper and clearer, there you can see the lump clearly for the first time, but I think, it is impossible to have a lump from that size, after so few vomit... In the frames after the vomit, I can't possibly see a growth of the lump, like you are trying to make us believe, in frame 0:00:01,12 the image is just still sharper than in 0:00:01,04, but here and further from frame 0:00:01,20 to 0:00:03,68 there is no growth of the lump, and the distance from the second to the third finger remains somewhat the same until in frame 0:00:04,32 where he decreases the distance between second and third finger. Concluding remark: From the beginning to the end, the golden ball was already lying in the handkerchief of his right hand: again Baba was caught faking a 'lingam' materialization...

Kristijan:

OK i just watched the video again, frame by frame and it's really interesting.
First it looks like a vomit but as it reaches closer to the handkerchief it sparkles at one moment and i seriously doubt it has anything to do with the lightning.
Saiexposed420:

You have seriously got to be kidding me, dude. I saw the film on THREE different viewers and there was NO sparkle on any of them. Windows Media Player Quicktime 6 Real Player And just now I checked it out with the Winamp plugin. That makes FOUR viewers so far, and NO sparkle. Oh well, I guess people will always see what they want to see. The other interesting thing is that there is almost no lump in the handkerchief until it reaches his mouth , SB's index and middle fingers are separated with a large gap from the minute you see his hands. It is so OBVIOUS that there is a depression of some sort in the cloth. I cannot figure out how you conclude there is no lump until it reaches his mouth.
Kristijan:

It's only then when you can really see the lump when puts the hc. on his mouth, the lump gets bigger.Perhaps it's cause the l. was basically created in that hc.,naturally the lump had to appear at that point. But like i said u can't say it's a lump until he puts the hc. on his mouth. Saiexposed420:
So now you are speculating on whether the lingam was CREATED while still in the handkerchief? Whatever man, in any case this still means it didn't come outta his mouth. In turn, that makes one wonder what DID come outta his mouth. Vomit? Yes.
Kristijan:

Very interesting, especially if you watch it closely frame by frame.

Yes, we have all seen it frame-by-frame, thank you. I saw it on four different viewers now. Quicktime is the best viewer in my opinion. Just see how the QUANTITY of liquid id NO MATCH for the size and shape of the lingam. Add to that that no one ever sees the lingam actually EMERGING from his mouth. Add to that that there is a very suspicious LARGE LUMP being held by SB between his index and middle finger.

First when i saw the video i thought LOL this is weird, but now i think It's totally Mystic.

Saiexposed420: As I said, brainwashed devotees will see what they want to see.
Rapistanddemonsathyasaibaba:
'SB's index and middle fingers are separated with a large gap from the minute you see his hands. It is so OBVIOUS that there is a depression of some sort in the cloth. I cannot figure out how you conclude there is no lump until it reaches his mouth.' I want to add something on this: On the video there are two frames of the vomit to be seen, a short one, when it just comes out of Baba's mouth, and a longer one, the same vomit, but then longer. The last picture, which is frame 0:00:00,96 in Windows Movie Maker, shows a reflection of the light that comes from the right (from Baba's viewpoint), just as the reflection on the cup which is to be seen all the time. As we all know, all kind of fluids can reflect, water, oil, whatever, you name it, so there is NO sparkle to be seen, this is REFLECTION. What is more important! Watch very carefully at frame 0:00:00,96 in Windows Movie Maker, which is the frame with the longest part of the vomit that reflects; watch the right hand, there you see a large space between Baba's first and second finger where he holds the large golden ball: Baba vomits somewhat (from Baba's viewpoint under/left) UNDER the ball and when the handkerchief reaches the mouth in frame 0:00:01,04 you can see that the space between the first and third finger is more narrow, so we presume that it is obvious that at this very moment the huge ball causes a lump. Why can I say this? Because the vomit just DRIPS out of his mouth, and the distance between Baba's hands and his body is far more removed than the assumed power behind the vomit can reach. I mean to say this: Look at the distance of Baba's hands and the body, and then, look at the distance from the vomit and Baba's face, just when it drips out of his mouth, the vomit can't possibly reach the space in Baba's right hand, it just falls BEFORE the wide space between the second and third finger of the right hand. Ok, in despite of the fact, that Baba's leans forward at the moment of the vomit, still you can clearly see, that the distance from the drip towards the space between the second and third finger is not enough. Concluding, the vomit DRIPS somewhat (from Baba's viewpoint under/left) BEFORE the space between Baba's second and third finger, where he is holding the golden ball. Can you see it? Because in frame 0:00:01,04 the lump is to be seen situated RIGHT from the place where Baba is holding the handkerchief for his mouth It is easy to understand, that this little amount of vomit dissolves directly in the handkerchief after the vomit, when Baba quietly graspes the ball later. Final conclusion: FAKE !