More lies from Sai Baba


By: Hari Sampath

From: Sai Baba - Anti Christ? Quick Topic Discussion Board, message 1048:

Date: 07-28-2001 10:44 PM ET (US)

Here is more from Sai Baba's own statements that categorically demonstrate that Sai Baba just makes up stories as he goes along with little regard to Truth.

I had always felt that these "small factual inconsistencies" or in other words outright lies, serve the purpose of highlighting the larger lie that Sai Baba has perpetrated on millions of people worldwide, namely - he is the "avatar".


From "conversations with Sathya Sai Baba"- John Hislop :

This interview was recorded in the early 1970s

Page 114 :

Hislop : The early stories are extraordinary ! They do not conform to anything we could imagine. Those childhood companions , they must have been quite special. Was their further destiny unusual also ?

Sai : Concerning the seat in school, there were two boys who sat with Swami in the same seat. It was for three. When Swami declared that he would no longer go to school, one boy committed suicide. The other boy went mad. He would call "Raju Raju" all the time. At length he died.

Hislop : It is very strange; a great mystery. But was his death a good death because his mind was fixed on Swami and constantly calling Swami's name ?

Sai : He merged with me.

Now let us take a look at what Sai Baba says in his speech of October 1st 2000 .

........Without Raju, Ramesh and Suresh refused to sit on the bench or stay in the classroom. Ramesh ran and jumped into a well giving up his life. Suresh kept crying, "Raju, have you left us! Raju, have you left us!" He became mad and was admitted to the mental hospital in Bangalore. His parents prayed to Me to go and see him once. Swami told them, "The present Suresh is different from the earlier one. There is no point in My coming to see him." After a few days, he too died.

I had two dogs, Lilly and Billy in the Old Mandir. Jack and Jill were born to Lilly. The two were none other than Ramesh and Suresh come again to stay near Me. One would sleep at my head and the other at My feet. They used to get up at My slightest movement. One day the Queen of Mysore came for Swami's Darshan. She was very orthodox. She got down from her car at Karnatakanagepalli and walked up to Puttaparthi. After his dinner, the driver had to go back to the car. It was dark and he did not know the way. I ordered Jack to show him the way and the driver followed it. The driver slept in the car while Jack slept under the car. The next morning when the driver started the car, he ran over Jack's spine. From there, Jack dragged itself through the river towards the Mandir. The washerman, Subbanna, who used to look after the Mandir, told me that for some reason Jack was coming whining. I replied that I knew and walked up to the Mandir gate. Crying aloud, Jack fell at My feet and gave up its life. Jack was buried behind the Mandir. Jill too passed away after a few days. I built a Samadhi for them and planted a Tulasi plant over it. It remained for a long time. When I was at Bangalore recently, in order to extend the Kalyana Mandapam, the engineers razed it. Thus after spending their next lives as dogs, they finally merged in Me. Those who believe in Me shall have no dearth of anything.


From Sai Baba's description of the "deaths" of his dogs Jack and Jill ( when the queen was visiting him), it is obvious that this was during the days when there were no roads to Puttaparthi (because the queen's driver had to leave the car on the opposite side of the river bank). This is most likely in the mid 1950s.

Some questions immediately come to mind :

1. IF those two boys who had died in 1940, had "merged with Sai Baba" as he tells Hislop in the early 1970s, How were they reborn at all, and that too as dogs ??

The theory of reincarnation clearly does not hold good for "merged" souls, as merging itself means "no more births or deaths". Further, only in very severe cases of extremely bad karma, would a human being be reborn as an animal. The reverse order of birth into lower species hardly ever happens, and this is further impossible in the case of "blessed souls" especially if they had "merged".

Also, note that of these boys had in deed really been reborn as dogs and had died under car wheels in the mid 1950s, there is no mention of it by Sai Baba in the early 1970s to Hislop, even though Hislop specifically asks Sai Baba "Those childhood companions , they must have been quite special. Was their further destiny unusual also ?" to which Sai Baba replies " they merged in me". No mention of anything like "they were reborn as dogs 15-20 years back and then they merged......." or anything like that.

This "new story" of Jack and Jill being the two boys is clearly an invention of Sai Baba in October 2000, and like in most of his other lies, Sai Baba just forgot what he had told Hislop in the early 1970s.

These lies clearly show the devious nature of Sai Baba, and obviously a liar CANNOT be the "avatar"

Hari Sampath.