Comments on Peace Messages from Sai Baba
From: Sanjay Dadlani
Email: dark_knight_9@yahoo.com
Date: Tue Feb 11, 2003, 4:30 p.m.
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Subject: Peace Messages from Sai Baba (re: Columbia Shuttle crash tragedy)
There has been a brewing controversy on the prominent pro-SB discussion forums about the authenticity of a series of "Peace Messages" from SB as regarding the Columbia Shuttle tragedy some weeks ago.
The current consensus is that these messages were NOT directly spoken by SB, but that it has been channeled by a "lucky" devotee who is as yet unnamed.
For Your Info, here are the peace messages as given by Sai Baba, internally. Make of it what you will.
DIVINE MESSAGES
Om Sri Sai Ram!
1 February 2003
Peace is the foundation and Love is the pillar. Do not worry about Iraq attack. This is only an imagination. Divine Will for Peace would prevail. Many countries have to learn lessons of Love and Peace, and Swami would teach them as this is for which Swami has descended on Earth.
- Sri Sathya Sai Baba
Om Sri Sai Ram!
3 February 2003
12.00 p.m.
Human lives are mostly for karmas based on their past lives and they come and go as per past karmas. But there are certain souls which come on this Earth Planet for fulfillment of certain specific tasks as assigned to them by Universal Consciousness for welfare of the mankind and for good of the whole world for spreading Peace. As soon as the assigned task is over such souls go back to their astral destinations for another assignment from the Lord.
Kalpana Chawla was here on this Earth Planet for fulfillment of a specific task. As soon as that specific task was performed she has been restored to the original destination. It was a heroic separation from Earth Planet - this is not death. This is immortality gained by immortal deeds. She served the cause of humanity and she used her life for greater tasks of life, i.e., the researches for treatment of cancer and other fatal diseases. People should learn lessons from such exemplary life. Let the Nation bow to her for her exemplary Mission of Life.
With Love and Blessings to devotees.
- Sri Sathya Sai Baba
(While we were thinking that the seven members of crew of the Columbia were perhaps the Saptha Rishis, Baba instantaneously said the following: "This was not a case of Saptha Rishis. It was the performance of a specific task mainly assigned to Kalpana Chawla, and the other six were assisting actively in the task.")
2.50 p.m.
There was absolutely no pain - physical or mental - felt by Kalpana Chawla while separating from this Earth Planet as she was a pure soul and her Mission was Great. In such cases, even the separation itself is a Bliss as the purpose has been achieved and now they look forward for another task to be assigned by the Lord. The Lord is not merciless to inflict pain in such cases and He only confers Bliss, Bliss and Bliss, and ultimately the Blessings for another Mission which would be in store for them in the next phase.
There are pacemakers and there are peacemakers. Saints in this world and the gentle and good souls are virtually peacemakers and they are sent on this Earth for the purpose of identifying the areas were peace is to be restored by various methods, and continuous efforts are made to restore and re-establish Peace. The Invisible Souls are also at work and they release requisite powers to certain existing and prominent souls (which are in human bodies) and they go on recharging their energies from Master Souls for fulfillment of their higher tasks of establishing Peace and Harmony in the world.
Such souls are always very active and vibrant and they can sense the atmosphere very speedily.
With Love and Best Wishes to devotees,
- Sri Sathya Sai Baba
From: Sanjay Dadlani
Email: dark_knight_9@yahoo.com
Date: Wed Feb 12, 2003, 2:45 a.m.
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Subject: Re: Peace Messages from Sai Baba (re: Columbia Shuttle crash tragedy)
Whether they were directly spoken by Sai Baba or not, it is APPALLING that the so-called "Peace Message" revelations smacks only of pro-Hindu propaganda and racial exclusivism.
Let's try and focus on some select points:
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DIVINE MESSAGES
Om Sri Sai Ram!
1 February 2003
Peace is the foundation and Love is the pillar. Do not worry about Iraq attack. This is only an imagination. Divine Will for Peace would prevail. Many countries have to learn lessons of Love and Peace, and Swami would teach them as this is for which Swami has descended on Earth.
- Sri Sathya Sai Baba
This is great. The whole world is gearing up for a possible assault on Iraq. The Bush administration is desperately seeking a 'smoking gun' for evidence. Tony Blair rushes around trying to seek a consensual agreement among prominent European nations. The United Nations are being petitioned for permission to assault Iraq. A second resolution seems in the offing. If Saddam continues to be stubborn, war may well be likely.
After that, war with North Korea seems on the cards since that nation has been actively seen to restart its nuclear program and has also threatened to nuke the US.
But we should not worry about all of this, because according to the revelations of God on earth, this is all an IMAGINATION. Bush is hallucinating. Blair is hallucinating. Korea and the UN are hallucinating. The whole world is hallucinating. We are just imagining that there is going to be a war.
I suppose that if the US or Iraq gets nuked in a possible war, that is also a dream I suppose? It didn't really happen, we just imagined it. Yes, this is the answer, and this is why "Swami" has descended to earth, to tell us that we are all wasting our time hallucinating.
And what exactly is meant by "Many countries have to learn lessons of Love and Peace"? This means that many countries have to get their bottoms spanked? Only naughty children deserve a spanking, so shouldn't Saddam be spanked on his bottom? Who cares if anyone is being spanked since the spanking can also be considered an imagination? And of course, it's always nice to plug oneself as the one who will teach all these countries the error of their ways. "Swami" will teach them. This is why he has descended on the earth, what are you thinking?
Om Sri Sai Ram!
3 February 2003
12.00 p.m.
Kalpana Chawla was here on this Earth Planet for fulfillment of a specific task. As soon as that specific task was performed she has been restored to the original destination. It was a heroic separation from Earth Planet - this is not death. This is immortality gained by immortal deeds. She served the cause of humanity and she used her life for greater tasks of life, i.e., the researches for treatment of cancer and other fatal diseases. People should learn lessons from such exemplary life. Let the Nation bow to her for her exemplary Mission of Life.
OK, this is fine. There is nothing wrong with making a tribute to Kalpana Chawla. Her demise was indeed tragic. In fact, I happened to stumble on an Indian news webpage (Rediff.com?) a few days before the Columbia was launched, and there was a huge article that was full of pride that Kalpana Chawla would be the first Indian-born astronaut to fly into space. Not only was she the first Indian-born, but because of that she had become a national icon for Indian pride.
It was indeed tragic that the mission returned with such tragedy, and even though she made the grade she is sadly not present to enjoy the results of her status.
(While we were thinking that the seven members of crew of the Columbia were perhaps the Saptha Rishis, Baba instantaneously said the following: "This was not a case of Saptha Rishis. It was the performance of a specific task mainly assigned to Kalpana Chawla, and the other six were assisting actively in the task.")
Really? Was Kalpana Chawla the main team leader of the mission?
According to the official NASA website http://spaceresearch.nasa.gov/sts-107/overview.html#crew and http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/shuttle/crew/, Kalpana Chawla is simply listed as a 'Mission Specialist'. There seem to be at least two people above her, Pilot William McCool and Commander Rick Husband.
Her name seems to be listed above the other Mission Specialists, though why this is because of her seniority or simply an issue of website design is unknown. But one thing is for sure, Ms. Chawla was most certainly not the leader of the whole space expedition as the channeled message from SB seems to imply.
There was absolutely no pain - physical or mental - felt by Kalpana Chawla while separating from this Earth Planet as she was a pure soul and her Mission was Great.
Sorry, but this is nonsense. The whole world saw the craft bursting into flames as it hurtled from space and burned up in the atmosphere.
If the astronauts were not already dead, they would have surely been burned alive. Being a "pure soul" and having a "great mission" only spoken of by a child-molesting pedophile from India does not cut it with not suffering pain. And are you seriously having us believe that the astronauts did not suffer mental pain at least? Sure, these astronauts must have figured out that something had gone wrong with their spacecraft, they must have panicked, they surely realised that they were going to die, and they took all this very calmly?
Sure.
In such cases, even the separation itself is a Bliss as the purpose has been achieved and now they look forward for another task to be assigned by the Lord. The Lord is not merciless to inflict pain in such cases and He only confers Bliss, Bliss and Bliss, and ultimately the Blessings for another Mission which would be in store for them in the next phase.
Fine. Only Sai Baba could have the audacity to come up with such pseudo-spiritual garbage such as this. It is all very well stating that the astronauts have been reborn in preparation for their next "mission" (I love the comparisons with astro-speak) but how would he know? How would SB know where they have been reborn, etc?
Those who believe in the law of karma would only naturally say that they have gone to "another place," so this bit of info is not new or surprising in any way. And what is the purpose behind praising Kalpana Chawla exclusively and not mentioning the other astronauts?
Is this another instance of SB's unlimited compassion, that only happens to be available to those pure souls of Indian birth? What of the other astronauts, don't they deserve to have Bliss, Bliss, Bliss too? The official NASA website lists her as one of three "Mission Specialists," so this is hardly a senior position.
Speaking of which, I wonder if any of the astronauts were atheists?
If so, then why should they care about being assigned a new mission from the Lord?
There are pacemakers and there are peacemakers.
No kidding. And what this "clever" saying has to do with the Columbia shuttle tragedy, we will never know.
Saints in this world and the gentle and good souls are virtually peacemakers and they are sent on this Earth for the purpose of identifying the areas were peace is to be restored by various methods, and continuous efforts are made to restore and re-establish Peace.
More nonsense.
In context of the shuttle tragedy, the above seems to be saying that these astronauts were on a peace mission, to restore and re-establish peace. Could anyone tell me how jetting off into space is meant to achieve peace? Here's me thinking that peace missions were strictly a home affair and nothing to do with outer space?
Either way, this is exposed as pure nonsense. The shuttle crew were not on a peace mission of any sort. According to NASA's official website, the Columbia STS-107 mission had only one purpose; space research.
"STS-107 is a Shuttle mission dedicated to research investigating human physiology, fire suppression, and other areas of research relevant to people across the globe, hence the theme Space Research and You...The research on STS-107 builds on our experiences with Skylab and Spacelab, and supports longer, more ambitious research aboard the International Space Station (ISS). The Shuttle Columbia and its crew of seven will devote this 16-day mission to a mixed complement of competitively selected and commercially sponsored research in the space, life, and physical sciences." -
http://spaceresearch.nasa.gov/sts-107/index.html
"80 experiments were successfully completed using the unique microgravity conditions of orbit to investigate everything from the physics of fire suppression to growing protein crystals for use in medicine. About half of the experiments Columbia carried were commercial in nature. These were sponsored by businesses that hoped the results would translate into new products. NASA and other groups, such as the European Space Agency and the Canadian Space Agency, sponsored the rest. In addition, elementary school students in the U.S., Australia, China, Israel, Japan, and Liechtenstein sent up experiments to understand the effect of space flight on fish, spiders, ants, silkworms, and bees. Two of Columbia's biological and physical research experiments tested cell growth in weightlessness.
One of these projects was aimed at combating prostate cancer, and the other sought to improve crop yields. An experiment on growing protein crystals was designed to create a possible therapy for bone cancer, and yet another hoped to improve the efficiency of anti-cancer drugs. A special chamber was created to house experiments on fire combustion and suppression. An experiment on granular materials was aimed at providing insight into construction techniques that could withstand earthquakes, floods, and landslides." -
http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20030205.html
All this can hardly be termed as making efforts to restore and re-establish peace!
The Invisible Souls are also at work and they release requisite powers to certain existing and prominent souls (which are in human bodies) and they go on recharging their energies from Master Souls for fulfillment of their higher tasks of establishing Peace and Harmony in the world. Such souls are always very active and vibrant and they can sense the atmosphere very speedily.
Ok, this is the part where the whole message descends into sheer nonsense. Not only is this completely irrelevant to the issue of the shuttle tragedy, it doesn't even deserve a responsible spiritual clarification. Why not tell NASA this supreme secret, that it doesn't matter if the mission failed since the astronaut crew are now being recharged in preparation for "higher tasks"? Excuse me, but how high can you get after you reach outer space? And why should NASA care?
Why not go right ahead and tell this to the grieving members of the crew's families? They would be happy to know that "Invisible Souls" have captured their near and dear ones, so that that are now very active and vibrant and can sense the atmosphere very speedily, in regards to what exactly?
This is never explained.
With Love and Best Wishes to devotees,
- Sri Sathya Sai Baba
Yes I'm sure that such good wishes are better left to those people who blindly accepted this CHANNELED message as truth from the lips of SB before it finally became obvious that it was fake. Either way, this is just another piece of Hindu nationalism preaching from Sai Baba. Fancy making a case out of Kalpana Chawla and not sparing a sympathetic word for the other members of the astronaut crew! Not only do Sai Baba and/or his devotees expose their biased beliefs, they also expose their propagandist characterisation and also by uninformedly stating that the shuttle mission was to establish peace, when they were clearly in space to research commercial objectives.
We have seen this type of incompetent Public Relations before, and quite frankly we are bored of it. Perhaps Sai Baba can pick up a newspaper and read about what is going on in the world before he makes any more "enlightened" comments.
Regards,
Sanjay