Comments on ‘Sai Baba: A Comment on Recent
Negative Media Stories: Why They're Not True’
From: Ex Baba
Subject: Your story from November 2000, and my comments
(Article not available anymore since a few days...) and on Yahoo with the title:
Possible truth behind 'yucky' stories
Is this the way you still think about Sai Baba? Do you know www.exbaba.com? There have been great explorations on the, amongst others, sexual abuse being committed by Sai Baba from India
I will comment your writing between the lines.
Sai Baba: A Comment on Recent Negative Media Stories:
Why They're Not True
They are true...
I have read the various allegations about Sai Baba concerning sexual abuse.
I hope you have already changed your mind by reading on, since 2000.
These stories were probably first started by Tal Brookes.
Tal Brooke, eh... by the way, your story has been commented
by Robert R. Priddy from
Tal has lied about many things (eg That he was the No. 1 western follower of Baba). And it is worth noting that it has been said that he was an associate of Timothy Leary, a member of the CIA who helped to develop LSD. For more information on Tal see: http://people.delphi.com/bongiovanni/reptb.htm and http://www.kheper.auz.com/topics/gurus/Sai_Baba.htm#Tal
Second, regarding the stories that Baba has anointed some men with
oil on their penis. From speaking with people who have had interviews, I
understand that these stories are true. This does not totally surprise me. We
in the west need to realize that
Baba did a lot more than just oiling male genitals, you may read (for example) the story of Hans de Kraker in Witnesses on www.exbaba.com, he invited Hans to suck his penis...
I can only say, from my own experience that people who follow Baba's teachings seem to end up with a lot less lust than many other people. The atmosphere in Puttaparthi feels very clean and pure. While there I was very impressed that I received NO looks of lust from men, which is not what I always experience outside his ashram.
All the boys in the ashram are devoted to Sai Baba, they don't think of anything else, their feelings of sexual lust are just temporarily decreased.
However, I have NO doubt that the stories regarding sexual abuse are false.
I have NO doubt, that the stories regarding sexual abuse are true.
Just to be practical - they are meant to happen during interviews!
Yes they do, there are witnesses who have caught Baba kissing boys and there were lustful sounds from behind the curtain, just read the evidence on www.exbaba.com.
While ten, twenty thousand or more people are waiting for Baba outside!!! And the back room, where these incidents are supposed to take place, is divided by only a material curtain, which moves back and forwards in the breeze!!! With dozens of people in the adjoining room!
Yes, this is so, exactly, but there are more places where Baba gives his pupils a 'Goodluck Chance', just read the stories...
There is one possibility which explains the numerous stories going around about Sai Baba and sexual abuse which no one seems to have thought of.
It is surely relevant that these stories are only just now starting to get out - after all, Baba is SEVENTY FOUR years old.
Yes, now he is 76, and he is still sexually abusing male devotees...
There are literally tens of thousands of stories about the good actions of Sai Baba. I used to wonder why we never heard any negative stories about him.
Yes they are, just click Sites on www.exbaba.com and you will find other sites in different languages on which you may read the evidence of sexual abuse by Baba.
After all, since there is organized evil on this planet, which is involved heavily in the occult etc., Sai Baba is the kind of person that they would want to attack.
Huh? Is this you imagination speaking? Just read the story of the Witnesses on www.exbaba.com, these boys were devotees, there is no evil at all in these boys...
His positive effect on so many people's lives is huge.
But on the other hand, there is the sexual abuse, both things in one person, this easy to explain, Sai Baba claims that he is not ' his form ' (with all the humanlike desires), I presume that you know what that means, he says that he is God, and the physical body may do what it wants, so by saying this, he refuses to take responsibility for the wrong acts being committed by 'his form'.
To be short; he is schizophrenic.
It is possible that the people who have created these stories are victims of mind control by the 'bad guys'.
My God... what are you writing here? Drifting away again?
I felt that there might be trouble for Sai Baba down the track when I read "Divine Memories of Sathya Sai" by Diana Baskin. Diana Baskin is the daughter of a Swiss banker and an Italian aristocrat. She lived with Baba for 10 years. It was she and her husband who told Baron Rothschild about Sai Baba, which caused the Baron to go and see Baba. But Baba ignored the Baron completely. Instead Baba chose to see a group of very poor Nepalese. I doubted that someone as "important" as Baron Rothschild took kindly to this type of treatment. I felt that it would be just like a Rothschild to start brewing some kind of revenge.
Sigh... no Miss... no...
An important new book "Secret, Don't Tell: The Encyclopedia of
Hypnotism" by Carla Emery (www.hypnotism.org) gives many stories, some from
court proceedings, which prove that the 'bad guys' can easily get 10% of the
population to do anything they want, purely through hypnosis. In opposite to
what most people believe, it is relatively easy to get these people to perform
unethical actions, including murder, prostititution and robbing banks through
hypnosis. This is without the extreme mind control techniques described in
books like "Trance Formation of
Sigh... oh no...
For more information on mind control, read "Operation Open Eyes" at http://www.rumormillnews.com/operation.htm
Thanks for the info, I hope Baba reads the internet already, because it is Baba himself who's mind is divided and who may need such explanation and help...
Ask yourself the question, since we can't get any REAL, UNBIASED
news in the media, how come this story made the front page of the
Just read the stories of the Witnesses, and things will be clear, but don't forget the details, they are extremely important!
One piece of evidence in favour of Sai Baba is the fact that the people who are spreading these bad stories get some of their facts wrong. The miracles ARE NOT real. The proof? No one else could afford to produce the things that Sai Baba has produced! I have met people who have rings made by Sai Baba. They had the rings valued - the jewellers could not put a price on such perfect, and such huge diamonds.
There are N U M E R O U S stories that prove the opposite... worthless stones, worthless rings, please read the stories on www.exbaba.com and elsewhere.
Recently there was a video made by an English TV company. They
interviewed one of the top, if not the top, pianist in
Name? Address? Email? I will contact him... I am a pianist myself, I am curious...
On the video the pianist said that he also had his ring valued, and
the jeweller said that it was real. Anyone who thinks that the tons of gold and
jewels Baba has manifested for people, are fake, is not considering the facts. He
made these things for many of the wealthy people of
Baba gets the jewelry in a store close by, he has a great box somewhere in his bed room... he is a magician, just look at the Movies on www.exbaba.com.
The best way to get to know Baba is through his energy. His energy has been in my life for years,
Your ideas and fantasies about him kept you busy for years, it was just not more that that...
and I feel only good, peace and happiness from it.
This was only because you initiated the positive energy in your life yourself from the very moment you met Baba (or whatever), you chose to believe your fantasies which helped and guided you, and you chose not to believe the painful Truth about this man...
On the contrary, when I have been connected (even unknowingly) with people who have the energy of sexual abuse, I feel awful.
Of course, this is because of your own sensitive imagination, which has nothing to do with those people or their 'energy of sexual abuse', you should have really listened to them, and feeling pity, instead of choosing for your selfish judging behaviour...
An example - I worked on a little girl in
You see? This has all to do with y o u, and certainly not with the girl... you are more or less drifting away from reality, instead of really helping the girl, because otherwise, she wouldn't keep lying; your method of 'normal kinesiology' was not ok for the girl, she apparently needed an other treatment, but instead of thinking of that, you choose to be sick as a dog... you see? Again you were busy with y o u r s e l f .... and not with the girl...
Before that, I hadn't been sick for more than a day for years. I didn't start to get better until the second day when I rang my sister to see if she could figure out the reason for my sickness, and she explained to me that when abuse is involved, a person's chakras nearly always get connected to the chakras of the abuser. With that knowledge, I was able to heal myself.
Just a theory, and once more again, you chose to find a reason, yes you did, so you made it possible for yourself to heal from the moment you rationalised it.
Baba has the complete opposite of this kind of energy on me, because I chose not to believe the truth about his dark side.
One way to experience Baba's energy for some people is to read some of the many books written by people who spent much time with Baba and who do the same thing as you are doing; denying Truth, just believing things you choose to believe, just being engaged with y o u r s e l f.
His energy, teachings and guidance have softened thousands of heardened hearts and encouraged many, many people to live better lives.
This has more to do with the people themselves, than with Baba...
While at Puttaparthi I observed the action and faces of dozens of young boys in the presence of Baba on about 14 occasions. On every occasion the looks of radiant joy and happiness told their own story. I have seldom send western children look as happy as those boys did, because Sai Baba is their idol, who is telling them beautiful (fake) stories, they are all devoted to them, so that explains their behaviour...
By the way, why doesn't Baba treat female genitals? Women don't have negative energy, huh?
Stephanie Relfe B.Sc. (Syd.)