I think
my message was clear enough, but it seems you've misunderstood my words.
So I'm here to clarify, and this is
the evidence of my sincerity.
I wrote that Silvia Mazzoleni was in
Assisi and she well knows Swami Roberto: that is undoubtedly true.
The rest of the message
describes a personal experience of myself, as I stated
("After the conference I
was looking at Swami's green-like-the-ocean eyes .... ").
I am sure of what I personally saw, and that is exactly
what I've written.
I didn't
write that anybody else has had the same experience. So, there is no need
for confirmation.
There is also the quotation of another
person saying:
"a few
years ago Roberto declared that God is incarnated on Earth as Sathya Sai Baba, and the
church "fired" him (so he made Anima Universale)..."
That is not exact. The reality of
the facts is stated by both some books and many priests I met.
Roberto has never
pronounced those words.
The catholic Church ended its dialogue
with Roberto after he declared that being God The Omnipresent, He is everybody's
Father and He is not property of any religions.
That's why he founded the Universal
Soul for everybody of any religions and cultures. It is a Movement for Spiritual Union and
charitable works and it is not a new religion, because it is based on the will
of Loving instead of hating. Love is God and God Is always. He cannot be new or old.
Dear Andries,
I kindly ask you to remove your
comment about Silvia Mazzoleni as it is out of place, or, at least, to add this message to
my quotation, so that the readers can see the whole story.
I rely on your conscience.
Thank you very much.
Greetings.
Riccardo
answer
The answer from Sanjay Dadlani to Riccardo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sanjay Dadlani" dark_knight_9@yahoo.com
To: webmaster@animauniversale.it
Cc: ex-baba@hetnet.nl;
sathyasaibabaexposeforum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: ex-baba: Swami Roberto
Dear Riccardo,
I just now noticed your letter to Andries Kruger-Dagneaux, dated Wednesday 5th March,
published online at the ExBaba.Com website regarding your mail of 19th December 2002 about
Swami Roberto.
Link:
ex-baba/engels/shortnews/roberto.html#comments
I would like to inform you that it was none other than myself who made that side-comment
about Silvia Mazzoleni. It was not out of sarcasm or spite, rather it was out of a genuine
interest for a truthful confirmation. Having been a dedicated devotee of Sathya Sai Baba
for over ten years, I am more than familiar with several instances of propaganda and
embellishment of events that have seemingly served only to enhance the 'glory' of Sai
Baba.
Indeed, I am discovering more and more of these instances, and doubtless I shall discover
more in the future.
You wrote:
----
"So I'm here to clarify, and this is the evidence of my sincerity. I wrote that
Silvia Mazzoleni was in Assisi and she well knows Swami Roberto: that is undoubtedly
true."
----
Thank you for confirming that Silvia Mazzoleni is aware of Swami Roberto, the
"Italian Avatar." Perhaps a more precise question should be: Does she accept the
supposed divinity of Swami Roberto and/or accept him as some sort of 'agent' of Sathya Sai
Baba of Puttaparthi?
This was the motivation behind my original question, though admittedly it could have been
worded better.
You then wrote:
----
"There is also the quotation of another person saying:
'a few years ago Roberto declared that God is incarnated on Earth as Sathya Sai Baba, and
the church "fired" him (so he made Anima Universale)...'
"That is not exact. The reality of the facts is stated by both some books and many
priests I met.
"Roberto has never pronounced those words.
"The catholic Church ended its dialogue with Roberto after he declared that being God
The Omnipresent, He is everybody's Father and He is not property of any
religions."
----
Well, what more can I say? I offer you my heartfelt congratulations on the occasion of
your exposure of yet another piece of pro-SB propaganda. You would doubtless be aware that
the above comment to which you objected was made by another Sai Baba devotee who is
obviously familiar with the area of Swami Roberto, though obviously not familiar enough to
speak the true fact.
Congratulations again for confirming Swami Roberto's supposed words that it is he who is
the Father of all. I would expect that this means that he is setting himself up in direct
rivalry to Sai Baba of Puttaparthi? After all, a lot of people are more than familiar with
the insignia of the orange robe and the afro hairstyle, so Swami Roberto surely cannot
claim to be original?
As mentioned earlier, through a ten-year period of devotion to Sathya Sai Baba I have seen
quite a few 'luminaries' arise with the claim that they have been divinely empowered by
Sathya Sai Baba to spread his message and love in their immediate environment of sorts. I
am aware of Sri Bala Sai Baba, who incidentally claims to be the real Sai Baba and that
the Puttaparthi Baba is the fake. I am aware of Swami Premananda, who reportedly performs
Lingodbhavams in more or less the same style as Sathya Sai Baba, wears the same dress and
hairstlye of the Puttaparthi Baba, and has also been jailed for rape. Now I have been made
aware of Swami Roberto, the 'Italian Avatar.'
Not that I am concerned by Swami Roberto. He, of course, is free to do as he likes but I
am more interested in the spiritual whereabouts of those who accept him as a divine
personage of sorts.
I will leave you with a message from Sathya Sai Baba that was spoken in a discourse dated
14th January 1973:
"In the Bhagavatam, there is mention of a certain Poundraka, who sought to become a
passable 'imitation,' of Krishna. He added unto his name the name of Krishna, viz.,
Vasudeva. He announced himself as Poundraka Vasudeva. He got made an imitation Conch and
an imitation Wheel (out of wood) and carried them about, in his two artificial extra
hands. He discovered the style which Krishna adopted while wearing his yellow silken robe
and he scrupulously followed the same. He skilfully imitated the gait and gestures of
Krishna. Some fools gathered round him, mistaking him to be the Lord they were seeking.
His insanity finally brought about his downfall and humiliation.
"In this Kali Yuga also such imitations
are cropping up just as Poundraka shaped himself into a Vasudeva. We have today even
Sathya Sai Babas. They get the same type of robe stitched, they strain themselves to
cultivate the crown of hair, they study photographs and hold their hands up very nearly
like I do and make themselves ridiculous by frantic attempts to imitate Me. They forget
that 'imitation is only human; but, Creation is Divine.' Those who attempt to become
Sathya Sai Baba by this ludicrous process of imitation only destroy whatever faith some
people have placed in the Divine. They are poisonous pests which injure the peace and
harmony of society. They collect around themselves insects of like nature. For only birds
of the same feather can flock together. These 'pretenders' fall into ruin themselves and
bring ruin on the society where they operate, as the proverbial horde of monkeys that ruin
themselves and bring ruin on the forest which they inhabit."
Regards,
Sanjay Dadlani
corrections
Corrections
Dear Andries,
I've just received the following message and I realized
that a statement of my previous posting has been misunderstood.
(begin quote:)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sanjay Dadlani" dark_knight_9@yahoo.com
To: webmaster@animauniversale.it
Cc: ex-baba@hetnet.nl;
sathyasaibabaexposeforum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: ex-baba: Swami Roberto
....
"Roberto has never pronounced those words.
"The catholic Church ended its dialogue with Roberto after he declared that being God
The Omnipresent, He is everybody's Father and He is not property of any religions."
Congratulations again for confirming Swami Roberto's supposed words that it is he who is
the Father of all.
...
Regards,
Sanjay Dadlani
(End quote)
Swami was not speaking of himself. Otherwise I would have written: "...that
being him God The Omnipresent..."
He pointed out that God is not exclusive property
of any religions.
English is not my native language, so I didn't realized that my statement could be
misunderstood.
Probably l could have written it better:
"The catholic Church ended its
dialogue with Roberto after he declared that God is The
Omnipresent, He is everybody's Father and He is not property of any religions."
I am sorry for the trouble and I kindly ask you if it is possible to correct my posting on
the web, so as to make it clear.
Many thanks.
Riccardo