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Date: Mon Dec 27 6:16:51 2004
Concerned can't really have studied the video faking evidence. The
lingam productions - esp. on the BBC 2004 film where NO lingam emerges
at all - are clearly fraud and the fakings of holy ash on video is also
clear, espec. to conjourers.
Date: Mon Dec 20 8:07:30 2004
exbaba is a
website run by a number of ex-devotees who belong to no common religious
or other organisation. Contributors are largely persons well-known in
the Sai movement at one time, and known in various other professional
spheres. All this can be checked out easily enough if anyone wishes to
do the work. The conspiracy theory was first put out By Indulal Shah
when still head of the world organisation, without a single shred of
evidence of any kind to back it up.
Date: Fri Dec 17 4:18:35 2004
Hi, I am
not a Satya Sai Baba devotee. I saw every movie in this website a few
times over to really find something incriminating or some sort of
fraud-like work. I must say that the videos show nothing to substantiate
their claim of trickery. Such a waste of time. If magic is what it is,
then forget Satya Sai Baba even PC Sorcar is a great magician. I only
find the confessions very worrying. But then, could it be the work of
some non-hindu organization on a large scale to discredit satya Sai Baba
(which I shd think is quite possible)? Guess its best for a person to
believe in himself / herself first.
Sanjeev Kumar Garkhail
Date: Sun Dec 12 15:07:19 2004
I was a
staunch Sai Baba devotee and started to intense meditational practice
after coming to Holland. Actually I became devotee after meeting a Dutch
lady who was also a devotee of Sai Baba. After 1 year of my devotion I
became psychotic patient and presently I am taking anti-psychotic
medication. I hear voices and also feel "energies". I have
hallucinations and I am leaning to cope with it. Also learning to go out
of such blind devotion.
Date: Sat Dec 04 18:10:38 2004
calling 'feces on the ground' people's courageous and heartrending
accounts of how they were not only sexually abused by Sai Baba is quite
enough.. & shows how Jega does not practice Sai teachings on behaviour.
Many boys and young men were utterly deceived about all his claims,
especially purity and chastity. You defend Jega's 'filthy' letter... so
where does that leave you as a sadhak, I ask? You have a
responsibility yourself in this, your conscience and compassion are
evidently dead to it all. The Indian police and courts have acted on
charges against the Shankaracharya, so do not get complacent. Sathya Sai
Baba is not invulnerable (you see, he needs his very costly 20 or so
plainclothes armed men in the crowds). He does not have the omni powers
he pretends to have! Time will show all.
Date: Sat Dec 04 16:00:20 2004
make some wholly unreasonable statements. You say that holding anyone
responsible for covering-up the sexual abuse allegations so that minors
or their familes will not know of them is "just the same as putting to
death a person who's innocent"!! There is no sense of proportion in this
whatever. Sai Organisation office-bearers are in jeopardy because as
leaders they have a 'duty of care' & 'mandatory reporting' duties so
that minors & familes will know of the allegations & so may take steps
to protect themselves. Further, you seem not to know that this is the
law in most modern Western democracies... if leaders of an organisation
do not reply to or investigate serious allegations (and call them like
Jegathesan did, 'feces on the ground'), it is or may be a punishable
criminal offence (depending on circumstances etc.). This is shown fully
in the case of Catholic Church which is now facing bankruptcy in the US.
Date: Sat Dec 04 12:49:41 2004
regards to taking up law suits against Sai Devotee's in the issue of
'covering up sexual abuse', how can you accuse a person in court for
covering up something that they have not seen for themselves? If the
truth was actually there to be seen, I doubt that there would be as many
Sai Devotee's supporting Sai. To go after them when they have not seen
anything of which Sai has been accused of, just the same as putting to
death a person who's innocent, as no one is willing to claim guilty for
a crime that was not commited. It's childish to want to go after the
innocent devotees, they are within their own careers offering a service
to their community aside from their involvement with the Sai
Organization. It would be a futile exercise to take lawsuits against
them, and a disservice to those who depend on those devotees in strength
of their careers. If there was more real evidance, or real truth within
the accusations that was not just hidden in stories and the spreading
word of mouth,
Date: Sat Dec 04 12:37:06 2004
The Jagadeesan Letter
This is the
first time I've stumbled upon this letter, though I believe I've seen
this site before. Bro Jaga did not call the PEOPLE 'fecease' if you read
and understand the letter indepth, just the accusations. Wouldn't you
defend your own father should people throw stones? I don't believe that
Bro Jaga has seen anything to support the condemnation, as those who
stand steadfast by Swami. Those who have become disillusioned for
whatever their reasons, can't waiver the steadfast soldiers of Truth and
Dharma within Swami's army. My respects to you all, whichever path you
may take. May it in the end the the right one for you. Sai Ram.
Date: Tue Nov 30 12:22:01 2004
what happens when you accept a human being as "Bhagwan", and disregard
the teachings of all the Archaryas and Vedas. Wishing you all luck in
search for the Truth.
Date: Wed Nov 24 5:34:55 2004
temporary visitor is an unwanted guest here - Lisa de Witt - whose
entries are banned, has shown herself indisputably to be a blatant liar
and person abuser using the most vile sexual language and defamations on
Yahoo groups sathyaSaiBaba2 and she libels and defames members of exbaba
on her moderated Yahoo website. She posted here falsely claiming
exbaba.com " delete any Pro-Sai opinions!" etc. But if one looks back
through this Guestbook one finds this is not true!De Witt also complains
that we remove links to any who refute our opinions. Hardly surprising
that one does not advertise disingenuous, contrived websites! The
name-caller and fanatical hater, 'Sai devotee' Lisa de Witt is naturally
excluded here (her IP Address: 188.8.131.52)
Date: Thu Nov 18 11:17:02 2004
form Spain. I think this is something goverments must worry about.
Date: Mon Nov 15 15:17:22 2004
nasty Sai character who is in total denial called Joe Moreno wants
people to submit sex abuse affidavits to HIM, of all people! Those
handling the affidavits will never break their promises to keep full
confidentiality given to those who deposited them. They will only be for
public view when laid before a court of law to prosecute Sai Baba or
members of his organisation. People who stop at nothing to harm those
who have suffered more than enough already will not obtain them but must
wait and see.
Date: Wed Nov 10 23:13:56 2004
Calling ex-devotees in Toronto!
for your response, Activist. Hopefully, the Sai organization will be
held accountable for its abuses and become bankrupt. I guess I feel
discouraged by living in Toronto where the Sai schools are prominent and
endorsed by naive politicians. Are there any activist groups in Toronto
that I can join? Sincerely, Shobie Kapoor
Date: Wed Nov 10 10:41:28 2004
suggest, SK, is being planned in some countries where the laws are
favourable. It has taken time for exposť workers to investigate the
legal situation properly in likely countries, but lawyers are working on
this in places we will not disclose at this time. It is certain that the
Sai Organisation will eventually face the same problems that Iskcon and
the Catholic Church have faced at tremendous expense... Iskcon has
actually been bankrupted by compensation grants. Those who need redress
will doubtless be encouraged by the first successful case against the
Sai Organisation, which does not have a leg to stand on, considering the
documentation - even including filmed interviews -amassed so far!
Date: Tue Nov 09 19:25:41 2004
that suing Sai Baba may not be a possibility. How about going after
people in the organization who are regulated health professionals and
who have an obligation to report child sexual abuse as part of their
code of ethics? I'm not a legal expert on this issue, ie. if disclosure
is made, I'm not sure if it has to be made at the place of work or if it
is confined only to patients. It appears that doctors, nurses, social
workers etc. flock to Baba and some have positions of power within the
organization. If they cover up the sexual abuse, why not go to their
local medical association or nursing association and report them?
Sincerely, Shobie Kapoor
Date: Sun Oct 24 0:36:23 2004
Baba is a farud.
did a great contribution to the community by bringing up this exbaba.com
web-site. I appreciate your courage.
PS. I wish your domain name is exbaba.net or exbaba.org instead of .com
Anand Babu Chief Technology Officer Super
Computing Division California Digital
Date: Wed Oct 20 18:08:03 2004
you to go to the psychiatrist Russel...
Date: Mon Oct 18 20:56:33 2004
Sai is god. He is the only god. He really has no form or name but has
assumed form and name for mankinds sake. Sai is love and love is Sai.
For crooks like me and you what do we know about Sai. We dont even know
our own selves.
WE should remember that when we point a finger at another four more
points back at us so admit your own faults and change your selves from
the low the high. God is every where even in demons loke us. Love god
however you know him it will still be the same sia that you are loving.
Date: Thu Oct 14 20:22:35 2004
the devotees do not read these pages! Their faith is so strong, they
would not hear anything like this!! Ganesh
Date: Tue Oct 12 19:33:20 2004
I like your
cartoon Baba it's so cute. Reminds me of see no evil.
Date: Thu Oct 07 15:01:42 2004
this is very shame to our country. on behalf of our country i ask sorry
to u..... then what else i can tell? but surely we will stop this
nonsence by our organization 'dravidar kazagam' from tamilnadu.
Date: Tue Aug 31 13:46:06 2004
about the vibhuti that appears: the appearance of vibhuti on the Sai
pictures is nothing but a spiritual achievement or power - siddhi.
Ravana in the time of treta yuga was able to convert his whole body into
the body of a Saint and was successful in abducing mother sita. in this
kal yuga, ravana like Sai Baba are able to perform these kind of
miracles, which to the illerate spiritual seekers appear to be an act of
god. Hindu devotees of Baba, remember that all the rakskashas that have
been mentioned in our epic, all possessed great powers over the nature.
APPEARACNE OF VIBHUTI DOES NOT AT ALL PROVE THAT Baba IS GOD. REMEMBER
RAVANA WAS ABLE TO CONVERT HIS WHOLE BODY INTO THE BODY OF A SaiNT!!!!!
Date: Tue Aug 31 13:32:03 2004
worse than the 'Ravana' of Ramayana. Indian epics have an example of
Hiranyakshyapa who got powers to rule the whole earth by doing lot of
tapas or spiritual practice. However, the Narashimha avatar of Lord
Vishnu is working as the guys of www.exbaba.com and www.Saiguru.net to
bring down this RAKSHASA of this earth. The people who has witnessed
SSB's energy say that he it is great, but they do not know that his
energy is 'negative' which is not at all capable to give liberation to
anyone. LORD VISHNU IN THE FORM OF www.exbaba.com and www.Saiguru.net
ALL THE BEST. LORD, YOU WILL DEFINITELY TEAR APART THIS DEMON AND
RESTORE THE DHARMA ON THIS EARTH.
Date: Tue Aug 31 13:26:31 2004
Baba is no
God; he's the opposite of GOD - DOG! The pious land of India is being
taken for granted by this ever green fraud of India. He uses his
spiritual powers (siddhis-powers over nature) to give false darshan of
Hindu Gods, like a donkey wearing lion's skin! All those who are staunch
devotees of Baba and claim to have received darshan of Baba as 'viswa
rup of vishnu' or in any other form have been fooled by his hypnotizing
and magical powers.
The biggest proff that Baba is a fraud is his face itself. The ancient
vedic science of face reading, like palmistry and astrology, helps us
figure out who Baba is really inside. He is a DEVIL! Ask a professional
learned face reader and he will further define the devil inside! Lots of
murders, rapes, and extortion have been done by Baba. He even possesses
the power of black magic to influence people to commit suicide, and we
have a lot of cases surrounding this. Baba of Puttaparthi says 'put
apart i' by he cannot - cause devils never. He's
Date: Wed Aug 25 5:13:59 2004
alias Phoenix..., you are just talking empty words. I know you and that
you have no idea what you talk about, you are just copying Sai Baba's
words. The mirror to smash is the self-satisfying 'Mirror, mirror on the
wall, who's the fairest of them all' in which flattered Sai followers
indulge themselves in ideas of how 'spiritually advanced' they are ...
"chosen ones" by a serial pedophile Deity. The wider world will never
credit this inconsistent, lying, faking, financially self-serving,
name-fame seeking, boasting megalomaniac who never follows up his
promises and drops people when they can donate nothing more etc. etc.
Date: Tue Aug 24 23:10:34 2004
if you smash the mirrow you will find out that there is neither Sai Baba
or YOU but just only one single power which contains "good" and "bad"
like two sides of the same coin.
Date: Tue Aug 24 18:14:02 2004
your finger right on it, Firelighter - too many Sai devotees are in fear
of the truth. So why did Sai Baba continually masturbate when he shared
his rooms with the 'soul brother' Krisha for some years (the whole of
Puttaparthi knew they were gay, called them 'Radha-Krishna' according to
the old devotee Vijayamma)? Why have so many persons experienced quite
other things than Phoenix from Vienna (IP 184.108.40.206)? Such as having
been sexually abused by him or murdered in his bedroom? Those who got
very close found out all about it - Bhagavantam, Bhatia, Bailey and many
others. Sai devotees are too scared to seek truth, they are too
flattered by being 'chosen' by this deceiver and so have closed down
their minds and live in a sphere of convoluted imaginings. See the fully
researched and totally irrefutable BBC documentary 'Secret Swami' - the
man who lives behind smoke and mirrors.
Date: Tue Aug 24 17:57:24 2004
Firelighter Home Page: Date: Tue Aug 24 17:55:00 2004
Comments: Phoenix - you are overdue for the fire again! You see
what you want to see, believe what you will... but you are too scared to
seek the truth. When you live in the narcissistic mirror hall where
SSB's flawed 'teachings' trapped you, your experience is limited to
yourself only. You are actually saying you can't even experience him,
because you see him as a mirror! What a joke! Smash it and you will find
out that Sai Baba is a dirty liar and pervert. Many Sai devotees are too
scared to seek truth, they are too flattered by being 'chosen' by this
deceiver and so have closed down their minds. Most of their experiences
are guided by massive hearsay, the result of living more and more in a
sphere of convoluted imaginings, and affected by 'group effect',
auto-suggestion and more besides.
Date: Tue Aug 24 11:00:36 2004
was created maybe with good intentions but misses totally the spiritual
view. A spiritual person examines a situation not with the eyes and
facts but with one's own experience. My experience with Sai Baba is that
he is always acting like an innocent child. So whatever he does he is
not acting out of greed or in search for pleasure. When Baba moves
through the crowds of people he moves like a pure mirror reflecting
every feelings of each person. So persons who accuse Sai Baba are
actually accusing themselves. So please Devotees of Sai Baba when you
come to this site then sit down and reflect on your own spiritual
experience with Sai Baba and you will see that it does not differ from
Date: Mon Aug 23 4:12:52 2004
it is a
known fact that Baba is a pervert and has no self respect and should be
put down like the dog he is. His tricks of the mind have captured many
victims who cannot object to his molestations. i urge everyone to stay
away from this man because his evilness has reached to the BBC of the UK
as they have also broadcast it. being an American this makes me sick and
angry that the name of hinduism is being destroyed by this fake. Baba is
a part of a cult i am actually part of a secret org that is trying to
expose him and victims are known to be "Babafied" after the experience.
Date: Sun Aug 22 13:18:43 2004
You make a
vast leap to a faulty concusion, Dudhane, from a single article posted
on this website. And you are supposedly a doctor! How irrational you
are. Very few of the exposť writers considers themselves Christians at
all and the idea that their faith leads them to attack Sai Baba, who
professes to be for all faiths and universal, just goes to show what a
shallow understanding and mind you have. You are in New Delhi, I think
(IP 220.127.116.11)and probably you have been listening to Indulal Shah's
lies and propaganda about 'Christian vested interests' against the
paedophile and deceiver.
Dr Anita Dudhane
Date: Sun Aug 22 2:17:46 2004
browsing through your website with interest till I read the
article,"Baba through Christian eyes" and realized that it was just a
site to deride anything or anyone who was not a Christian. I had
expected an objective site but that was completely missing. I guess
disillusioned ex-devotees can never be objctive.
Date: Mon Aug 16 4:40:43 2004
Brent, USA.IP 18.104.22.168. The film to which you refer will never
make it. The world will never swallow all those lies, which have been
exposed so well. The film-makers are just 'rowdy' propagandists, hoping
for a cash windfall, but deluded into the beliefs about Sai Baba's
fabulous claims which are now fully discredited.
Date: Mon Aug 16 4:40:10 2004
world's greatest Sai Baba epic coming soon.. http://www.Saifilm.com/
Son of God
Date: Wed Apr 27 13:28:48 2005
First u do
some good work rather than wasting ur time in critisizing others who
have devoted their life for welfare of humanity. try seing goodness
around u. i guess that impossible for u. how sorry I feel for ur
foolishness and ignorance!!!!pepole like u didnt trust Jesus then and
are repeating the same damn mistake now. anyway I dont want 2 waste more
time on u coz that's ur destiny.-- suffer!!!
Date: Fri Apr 22 16:58:31 2005
confused but interested in this
Date: Thu Apr 21 9:04:16 2005
Raghavan is partly right, partly mistaken... not as simple as he sees
it. Sure, gurus in India have fallen one after another, the list is
amazingly long and many are in prison. But Sai Baba has more Indian
followers than foreigners by far. The fall-off of foreign devotees is
very great... any visit to Parthi will show it. They mostly came from
very good intentions, often to help India too. Churches in W. Europe can
be empty for good reasons, Hinduism seemed to many an alternative worth
Date: Sun Aug 15 16:15:40 2004
You keep on
asking this. So what? It proves what about what, even if it is not
faked? What about the tears shed by statues of Mary and Jesus and
countless other spontaneous manifestations (roses, scents and much else)
reported by spiritualists and many others for ages? What about the
massive allegations from all around the world of sex abuse by Sai Baba.
And the vile murders and cover-up documented on the BBC documentary by
an ex-Minister of AP?
Date: Sun Aug 15 15:05:24 2004
Hi! I would
like to ask all, what they think of the holy ash (vibuthi)that keeps
appearing on pictures of swami all over the world in devotee's homes?
Date: Sun Aug 15 13:56:54 2004
hear David Bailey telling his facts, very convincing and also about the
Swedish boy. Thnkyou.
Date: Wed Jul 21 7:30:18 2004
doing a good thing and just keep that way. Trust yourself and your
heart, love eachothers and always do good. That is what God wants you to
Date: Sat Jul 17 11:53:14 2004
my childhood I knew Sai Baba is a fake. A true Saint should never claim
that he/she is a god. Even if he/she is a manifestation of god, then he
should be all knowing that includes the fundamental fact - Matter to
energy is possible but vice versa is not possible. The other fundamental
fact the "wise" one should know is enery could be transformed from one
form to another. Well, from what I have seen, what Baba does is Pure
MAGIC. I would rather go to PC Sarkar's show to get thrill than waste my
time at Satya Sai Baba. In fact, I hate any guru's who treat people
differently. I used to be firm believer of Kanchi Aacharya till I saw
once with my own eyes, how Cricket star Krishnamachari srikanth got his
treatment [like a royal] and the rest who had to stand in a queue for
hours. If a *all wise* guru doesnt understand the basic fact that all
humans are infact *equal* then he/she is not a guru at all. With all
Said, I do have one concern for Sai Baba. There
Date: Fri Jul 02 11:26:53 2004
To sign the
petition requesting that Sathya Sai Baba be brought to justice please go
Date: Fri Jul 02 0:59:25 2004
artist-pedifile-pervert belongs in a dark rat infested prison cell along
with those that helped him do the evil things he has done.
Jack Donald, Australia
Date: Fri Jul 02 0:32:51 2004
news about Sai Baba:--->
Kiran Lama , from UK
Date: Fri Jul 02 0:31:02 2004
petition for his crime --->
Hari Shrestha (Nepal)
Date: Fri Jul 02 0:27:24 2004
crimes from his past cult religious practices... see below web sites by
cut & paste in your web address. Belive it or Not....... it is
unthinkable Fact Article about Sai Baba:
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/s11.html Fact Article and report about
Sai Baba: http://www.factnet.org/cults/Sai_Baba/Bhag...aba.htm?FACTNet
Message Board about Sai Baba: http://www.my-india.net/mb1/data/458.shtml
British Law against Sai Baba:
http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/index.htm BBC new about Sai Baba:
petition about Sai Baba:
Date: Thu Jul 01 12:45:31 2004
Baba is a discrace to whose who actually heal and want mankind to do
well and be happy anf healthy. i think he is vile and rancid for what he
has done to those innocent victims especially his acts of sexual abuse i
hope he is ashamed with himself.
Date: Mon Jun 28 12:28:24 2004
Hi! This is
an excellent effort by a concerned group of individuals. i congratulate
you for your efforts. I am an Indian and am very shameful of acts of
Sathya SaiBaba. Sathya means in "True" in Sanskrit language. But I'm
assured that this Baba has nothing to do with Truth. He has been a
disgrace to all the Indians for a long time now. He and his organisation
have done commendable work for the needy persons but the methods
employed (Hoodwinking etc.) is an absolute shame. To think of having
made fool of many people (which still includes many prominent
personalities) for such a long time shows the mental sickness of all the
devotees. I wonder what those assistants, who work "hands in gloves"
with him, think about him - "A True Baba"?
Date: Tue Jun 22 10:48:23 2004
site! Please save the people on this globe by promoting such awareness.
Many thanks to BBC. What happened to news media in India, could not
expose such a news, still scared of Sai and his followers. SaiBaba and
many psuedo gurus in india should stop fooling indians as well as
western people. I just do not understand why people in western countries
also madly visiting SaiBaba, ignoring Holy Bible and Jesus Christ. I
assume that Sai might have enjoyed many young women. God bless the
Date: Fri Jun 18 11:38:06 2004
allegations about the guru r absolutely mindblowing and it really pains
me to see the number of devotees whose faith in god has bin shattered
badly beyond repair .I can only wish such a satan should meet an
extrmely horrible end for his misdeeds
Date: Sun Jun 13 6:37:12 2004
Swami Secret Swami: 2100 BST, BBC Two Thursday, 17 June, 2004 in the UK
Sai Baba blesses former prime minister Vajpayee in April 2004 Sai Baba,
India's biggest spiritual leader, can lay claim to 30 million devotees
around the globe. But increasing numbers of former followers are
alleging he has sexually abused them or their families. This World
investigates. Swamis, otherwise known as yogis or gurus, are the holy
men of India, and part of ancient tradition. Sri Satya Sai Baba, 78, is
based in Puttaparthi, near Bangalore in southern India. His distinctive
1960s orange robes and Afro hairstyle make him instantly recognisable.
As the country's biggest "God-man" - a human being who declares himself
divine - he professes to be the reincarnation of a Hindu God-man from
the 19th Century.
Date: Sat Jun 12 21:25:06 2004
lying. Sai Baba himself was enthusiastic about me joining his Easwaramma
High School when I was 14 years old, even asking us in two separate
interviews if we had got the necessary application forms. In any case,
we got the prospectus then. It's clear as day there, they wanted Rs.
Date: Sat Jun 12 6:54:47 2004
Baba were convicted, omSairam and the rest would say he was not guilty,
you bet. Another "avatar", Swami Premananda was put awey for life for
rape and 2 murders on clear DNA evidence, but his followers still hang
Date: Sat Jun 12 6:53:40 2004
of Sai Baba and his many alleged crimes cannot answer any of the charges
made on all fronts and have but one argument left... he has not been
convicted. Not yet, but wait, wait... To think that this means he is NOT
guilty is completely illogical, of course. Further, to believe that
those convicted by whatever court here or there are necessarily guilty
also shows great naiveity about human affairs and public courts. Not
least where sexual offences against minors are concerned. Just consider
the current confused situation in Belgium and how long it took to get
pedophile child killers to court against the complicit authorities! The
straw Sai devotees hang on to is 'no conviction', despite the massive
evidence. The many first-hand witnesses and crushing circumstantial
evidence would be more than enough to get him convicted in any country
where the rule of law is not so easily corrupted as in India, where his
devotees are found in much of the judiciary and government.
Date: Sat Jun 12 6:51:19 2004
visible fraud need no proof other than that they be documented and
filmed (see on this site). Are you are so blue-eyed as to believe that
the sexual molestations do not occur? The top office-bearer Thorbjorn
Meyer and others have confirmed (some even on TV) that Sai Baba
regularly takes down boys and young men's trousers and oils their
genitals, scrotum etc. This is an illegal act, also done without
consent. Much worse abuses are described by dozens of young men. Why
would they put themselves on the line like this when it is so hard to
stand forth in such matters, and meet the kind of response like yours
(and worse things). Though proven to the full satisfaction of all who
have investigated thoroughly, and to that of the decent reasonable (and
non-deluded) public, no court of law has found Sai Baba guilty because
he is protected by the many corrupt devotee judges. The affidavits of
foreign accusers were rejected by the Supreme Court led by the judge
Anand, a Sai devotee!
Date: Fri Jun 11 5:41:10 2004
investigate such matters as pedophile sexual abuse know that it is very
difficult for the abused to stand forth and usually take a long period.
Doubtless, hundreds of Sai-abused - probably more than that - have not
yet done so. The fact is that Indian students were murdered in Sai
Baba's bedroom and the CBI investigation (which was instigated because
the police in Puttaparthi were shown to be major liars) was quashed by
Sai followers in government. All this was documented in the Indian press
and by B. Premanand in his 800-page book 'Murders in Sai Baba's
bedroom'. Abused students have contacted us and explained that they risk
being murdered if they stand forth. The example of the Catholic Church
shows how such out-of-control power structures develop pedophile rings
so that it takes decades for the abused to get strong enough to bring
them to book in court. The 'Sai Baba case' likewise, it is far from
closed, as you will see.
Date: Thu Jun 10 23:11:35 2004
these accusations have been proven. In which court of law was Sai Baba
found guilty? Which accusers filed the charges which brought Sai Baba to
court? Media reports do not prove guilt.
Ex-office bearer Sai Org.
Date: Thu Jun 10 5:39:41 2004
The site is
packed with proven accusations of fraud, lying, sexual molestation, with
first-hand testimonies by sexually abused ex-devotees, including on
film. Does the (thankfully now EX-)Indian PM live in Sai Baba's bedroom
to keep an eye on him, perhaps? The bedroom where 4 devotees were
provenly executed. He knows none of us or the many large donations many
of us have given to Indians via the Sai Org. The BBC film "Secret Swami"
will be shown next week in UK, then in India etc. More persons will
testify and you will see plenty more evidence. Vajpayee and his cronies
are corrupt (Tehelka affair) and his statement shows he is malicious
liar, as is Sai Baba (Xmas 2000 discourse).
Date: Thu Jun 10 1:28:02 2004
is full of unproven accusations. Why haven't any of your accusers filed
charges with the police in India? Why did the Prime Minister and two
former Supreme Court Justices sign a letter proclaiming the accusers to
be malicious liars?
Date: Wed Jun 09 15:29:28 2004
Sai Baba's devotees say "swami is helping other people he loves all." I
am telling a very good example to show what sort of people he helps.
When I was in puttaparthi there was a woman working in hotel Sai Towers.
She Said " swami gave us 2 flats why; her father lost money in gambling
womanizing & election contest. She tried to steel my Ex-husband Subaji
with the help of Sai towers and Sai towers tried to use me for their
prostitute business. At the same time how many street beggars in the
street in front of prasahanthi nilayam including cripple. Every day Sai
Baba passing them in his Mercedes Benz car. So why so-called god's grace
and helping mind didn't go to the really needy people. Don't say excuse
that is karma. If everything is karma and fate then why you are wasting
your time and money on him.
Date: Wed Jun 09 4:56:27 2004
your experience Kabir, others have theirs, it seems. At least, board and
lodging are NOT free at Sai colleges or hospitals. Besides, many parents
make large donations too, being mostly rich people. But the REAL price
many must pay is to be sexually abused by giving Sai homosexual
gratification while virtually entrapped as a student there, don't you
know? Free state education is common in many countries anyhow, and also
Date: Sat Jun 05 2:23:38 2004
"I was led
to believe that the schools and colleges in Puttaparthi and Whitefield
had been set up to give free education to local children. This is not
the case. Last year the fees at the lower grade schools were 20,000
rupees per child for one year, plus books, plus uniform plus
accommodation if required. The village school is government run, and as
are all village schools throughout India, and is free - parents pay only
for books and uniform. Assuming that the college boys I taught were
local lads, I was amazed at their learning capacity, until I discovered
that these boys were brought in from all over India and had to pass very
strict entrance exams, needing 85-90% pass marks. As one of the tutors
Said to me - "Sai Baba takes only the best. They?d have to try, to
fail". The above facts stated are icorrect PLEASE MODIFY. I have studied
for 5 years (11th, 12th as BCOM (Hons) and the Satya Sai insititue does
not charge any fees WHATSOEVER. so much for all that 20000 bul
Date: Mon May 31 19:40:39 2004
devotee.I beleave that those who have the courage to leave an evil
beeing, are precious for god. Sai Baba incarnates the power, we have
been attracted by that power. But like all the other ones in power in
these times of troobles, it is an evil power. The search for the light
brings a human beeing to humility.
Date: Mon Apr 19 18:59:06 2004
were ever blacked out in any video. The sex abuse victim in the Danish
film 'Seduced' sat with his back to the camera. If you don't understand
how difficult it was even to talk about horrific oral and attempted anal
sex abuse by Sai Baba and about Goldstein's heinous betrayal of trust
with him, then you are block-headed. Wake up, Sportsfan, and watch the
clip here on exbaba.com video! He will not go away, on the contrary, I
Date: Mon Apr 19 18:39:29 2004
that you have not read the evidence against Sai Baba when you do not
know of the list, Sportsfan. Your claim that sufficient circumstantial
evidence is not available here is simply not credible. It is clear that
you do not know the contents of this site even - it is VERY extensive.
You should also read the public petition with over 700 signatures,
including many ex-officer bearers, founder members etc. The list has
long been at http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/Saiorg/index.htm and click on
the heading 'Ex office-bearers and prominent devotees'.
Date: Mon Apr 19 10:52:29 2004
obviously the expert on it right Canadian? I am not saying who is right
or wrong but this website does not have hard facts proving he is evil.
Date: Mon Apr 19 8:51:44 2004
note of blacking faces out. When it is done...its done to protect the
individuals who have been victimised. It doesn't at all show that they
are trying to hide any information...other than who they actually are.
Sai Baba's organization is vast..and so is his influence. We have to
respect those who fear possible retribution from individuals linked to
his organization and so forth.
Date: Mon Apr 19 0:39:27 2004
that list Journalist.
Date: Sun Apr 18 7:43:12 2004
does not know Sai intimately, it seems? He can be glad of that! Over 100
former long-term devotees and office-bearers/founder members are listed
who have left Sai Baba and his organisation. Besides, no face was
'blacked out' on any film. More devastating film interviews are on the
way... just wait. The evidence of untruth by Sai Baba on this site alone
is massive and has no point has even been successfully refuted by
Date: Fri Apr 16 15:53:59 2004
SportsFan...i'm assuming you think all of Baba's miracles are real? How
do you know that the confessions of abused individuals are fake? I know
a good amount of Sai Baba...and honestly..in my opinion...i see a man
who does magic tricks...and teaches things that OTHER people have
already come up with. This man doesn't even have the decency to give
proper credit to other people's ideas. Think about it dude...he sits
there and dazzles everyone with tricks, which can easily be replicated,
and teachings that aren't even his own. Pretty easy job if ya ask me.
Date: Fri Apr 16 9:35:37 2004
Date: Fri Apr 16 9:31:39 2004
simple question for you. How much do you actually know about Baba
besides a few devotees that you talked with? We all have our own
opinions but this website is not telling the truth. These people are
really setting everybody up for something very false. It's your choice
with who you want to worship or believe in but these people really don't
have any full proof that Baba is a bad guy. Those confessions are fake.
Anybody can go on a camera and accuse somebody. If you really wanted to
stand up for something, you wouldn't care to have your face blacked out.
Be straight up about it.
Date: Wed Apr 14 3:03:50 2004
discussing the alegations of so-called "victims" ruining our karma? Oh
wait...would worshipping this dude help our karma?? Please tell me. You
know..you can sit there all you want..saying that Sai Baba is innocent.
Thats fine...but please do not say we are wrecking our karma. These
people are only questioning what is being put forth..I'm sure Sai Baba
himself promotes questioning.
Date: Tue Apr 13 17:51:41 2004
whatsoever. You find hard evidence then we'll talk but you people are a
bunch of frauds. Enough with your Baba is bad nonsense.You are really
hurting your karma.
The Real Truth
Date: Tue Apr 13 4:06:33 2004
there lives a man in India, called Sathya Sai Baba living in Puttaparthi
who is sexually abusing male minors...
The Real Truth
Date: Sun Apr 11 19:48:37 2004
The Anti-Christ resides in Europe. Seems like a lot of confessions are
coming from that side. Is there some connection? The real evil lurks
behind this website. Whether you believe in Jesus, Baba, Allah, Buddha,
keep that faith and no evil will hurt you. Of course there is a lot of
pain happening right now in the world. But at the end of all darkness
and pain, there is light. Baba has been set up to look like the bad guy
but in actuality it's the people behind this site. Why fear when God
lives in your heart? Evil is spreading around Mother Earth, but the
Messiah will return and protect those who keep the faith and the simple
belief. Good will always defeat evil.
Date: Fri Apr 09 6:19:51 2004
It seems to
me, that Sai Baba teaches a human-loving faith. Now when i say that I
mean he teaches a 'religion' of loving fellow humans no matter what
mistakes he/she has made...cuz we all make em'. Now for all the Sai
devotees. If your fellow humans are telling you that this man has
committed morally wrong acts against them..isn't it...within your
faith...to have an open mind...and at least here what they have to say.
Everytime I talk to a Sai devotee about these allegations, they tell me
that don't want to investigate into it. They tell me that the rest of
us, who believe there is a possibility this may be true, are suffering
from some sort of dillusion. From Sai Baba's teaching..i get that we are
all part of the diving creation and that we are all god-like...with
"god-potential"..if you will. So if you're fellow humans, are pleaing to
you, that something is wrong, why are you giving Sai Baba priority over
them. Are they not as important and significant in this divine creation
Date: Wed Apr 07 7:21:31 2004
been to SSB many time, received gifts, and proved them to be fradulently
produced and worthless. No one has ever shown the slightest proper proof
that the gifts he claims are genuine diamonds are not all cheap
trinkets. Beware, if you 'just believe', that is your funeral... you can
end up insane.
Date: Wed Apr 07 6:59:47 2004
plenty of direct evidential proof of Sai Baba's sexual abuse. Victims
have gone public on TV film already (National Danish Broadcasting's film
'Seduced') which been seen in five countries so far. But more is to come
on TV globally this year!
Date: Tue Apr 06 14:46:16 2004
Baba's Greatest Miracle is...
Date: Sun Apr 04 12:15:07 2004
manages to escape from the devil so long...
Date: Sun Apr 04 1:51:25 2004
Date: Sun Apr 04 1:35:03 2004
attempts to discredit the Divine Very well Said. I agree with you 100%.
Date: Sun Apr 04 1:30:22 2004
person who Said he knows magic, you have yet to go there to prove him to
be a fraud.
The real MONSTERS are the people behind this site
Date: Sat Apr 03 10:52:49 2004
MONSTERS are the people behind this site. Just click on the hundreds of
website "pro-Sai" on the Web or read some of the 600 books written about
Sai Baba full of innumerable testimonies and miracles if you have eyes
Useless attempts to discredit the Divine
Date: Sat Apr 03 10:47:31 2004
absolutely NO PROOF of child abuse against Sai Baba. Sai Baba is a
phenomenon much more complex of that this site wants make to believe.
Study the Vedas, the Upanishad, the TEACHINGS of Shirdi and Sathya Sai
Baba, the Advaita Vedanta, the Religions, and try to understand what a
Spiritual Master teach. The anti-Sai are losers and are picking up a
very bad karma. Every Avatar of the past has had his loser enemies.
Rama, Krishna, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed have always won even when
attacked by demons. And the evolution of the conscience of mankind is
not stopped by a bunch of losers.
The real monster is Sai Baba
Date: Sat Apr 03 10:02:05 2004
enough evidence against him, just read the site if you have eyes to see.
Date: Sat Apr 03 10:00:19 2004
Sai Baba is
not a miracle worker, he is not a psychic. He is a fraud pure and simple
and he has never done any feat that cannot be duplicated by a competant
professional (and in many cases amateur) magician. I make my living as a
magician and I am very unimpressed by his tricks and dubious
credentials. On the other hand, when I consider the claims and
credentials of Jesus Christ... I have no other honest option than to
believe and surrender my life. Several years ago, I was invited to join
a group of believers on a pilgrimage to India to see Sai Baba... of
course when it was found that I was a Christian and a magician, the
invitation was withdrawn. It would not be that difficult for me to
convince someone that I have certain powers and that I was a "modern
messiah", but I am an entertainer and an artist not a charlatan. I am
also an advocate of childrens safety and use my shows to that purpose.
Sai Baba is a phoney, a counterfit messiah and (apparantly) a pedophile.
Date: Sat Apr 03 8:21:09 2004
Comments: The real MONSTERS are the HARE KRISHNAs, not the Sai
Baba Movement. See: The Washington Post, March 6, 2004 - Hare Krishnas
in Court.More than 500 people have made claims of sexual, physical or
emotional abuse againts the Hare Krishna.540 people worldwide have made
claims against the HK organization. About 90 claimants, he Said, are
involved in a $400 million child abuse lawsuit against the Krishna
movement.Againts Sai Baba there is no proof of any abuse. Completely
different is the HK case. Is trying to hide the Hare Krishna lawsuit and
the perpetrated child abuses that some member of the Hare Krishna
movement is involved in the anti-Sai campaign?
Date: Sat Apr 03 7:37:49 2004
Baba is a
cheater, who doesn't only abuse male minors, but commits frauds also:
Date: Thu Apr 01 16:59:39 2004
Sai Baba is
GOD, because you cannot file and win any lawsuit against him. None of
the sexual victims have the balls to give evidence against Baba in a
court of law. Baba is Supreme Being with the result you will not win a
case against him even in the International Court of Justice in Prague.
Date: Thu Apr 01 16:48:21 2004
Sai Baba is
spreading love in the world. This site is spreading HATE in the world.
This is the difference.
Date: Tue Mar 30 18:04:15 2004
even spell the names right.
Date: Tue Mar 30 17:02:01 2004
sportsfan. Don't show your small mind and you making decision and
accusation without thinking properly. See this web site
http://www.angelfire.com/ns/suganya/OldMe/home.html and tell which
actors you talking about. When I was in Puttaparthy one Tamil Nadu woman
jot down about my life and she wanted to publish my biography. But the
devil Baba according to you, god didn't let her to publish. Then only he
tried to murder me in Puttarparthy, Whitefield & Kaveri hotel
Bengaloore. After I came from India in 1995 I burned all of his books
and photos. But I tried hard to do that because of wind & cold, but I
didn't give up at last I succeeded. This was the indication how the
future will be. If your Baba is god tell him send me one million dollar
then I will not bother whether he murdered ,raped and abused children I
will pray him God like you
Not far away you will turn against him. Good bye
Date: Tue Mar 30 16:34:31 2004
yourself you loser. You're just one of those pricks that wants to hurt
him. And if you didn't read clearly you would have understood my point
of view better you jackass. I believe in Baba but I know because of my
faith in the Lord and Jesus Christ, that nobody can harm me even if he
really is "evil". Their is no proof you have that tells you that. Get
hard facts first and then we'll talk. You don't even have the guts to
confront Baba straight up about what you think really went down. Why
hasn't Baba Said anything about these allegations that you people have
against him? Because he doesn't stoop to your level. He allows you to
talk so badly about him because you know in the back of your mind you're
wrong and that it's all self denial. Baba has a lot of heart which is
something that a lot of you lack. Btw, how much did you pay for the
actors on your website? Are you paying them by the hour?
Date: Tue Mar 30 16:10:43 2004
I am not
brain washed by any of them. I am using my own instincts and personal
experience. If you haven't see my web site see now and find out how much
my life become worse after I become your so called god Baba's devotee.
If he is god incarnated to save this world then why this world in the
worse position than before he born. In my instincts tells devils only
pray and call him god, bahawan & swami. So don't promptly show who you
Date: Tue Mar 30 11:27:05 2004
he had the potential to do something very wrong, why wouldn't it have
been done a long time ago? People even go to the extent by saying Baba
has a cult. Here's the difference. Look at cults which have existed in
the past. I have no recollection of one which lasted long. Besides,
there are people out after Baba just to hurt him. I see where you're
coming from Canada, but if he's not meant to be then he's not meant to
be. Just trust what your heart says. People want to make him look bad
and bring these actors to confess these false stories. I'm not saying
you're wrong or right but these people try to tarnish his image but he
still continues to love everybody.
Date: Tue Mar 30 4:59:53 2004
Did you say
why doesn't god protect us from this evil? I think its fair to say that
there have been enough persons in this world that have been "evil" that
god hasn't protected us from. I'm not saying that it is within god's
power to control the actions of the souls that he/she created. Its just
that saying Sai Baba's claims of being a saviour based on the fact that
"god would protect us otherwise" is a poor argument.
Date: Tue Mar 30 2:42:16 2004
It's sad to
see that people are still trying to make him look bad even in his second
form. All these people who are against him are "Devil's advocates".
You're just blinding them with false material. You fear his love that's
all. It's hard for you to accept because you are being brainwashed my
nonsense you read in the media. That's what the media is good at doing.
Also, if he wasn't meant to be a saviour or a positive figure in our
life, wouldn't God protect us from evil? With God by your side, nobody
can hurt you. "If God is on your side, who can be against you?" My
message to those who are unsure about Baba, go with what your heart says
and not what these "Ex Baba" supporters say of him. It was Said that he
has touched somebody else in the private region to heal the person, not
to molest them. He's done it on throats, eyes, you name it. Those who
are true will recieve a real answer about Baba.
Date: Fri Mar 26 22:09:32 2004
first years of my knowledge about Sai Baba i was alwys wondering how
come the "living god" is distributing gold jewlery and stuff like that
(doesn't sound too spiritual, does it?)... but in time, as i started
believing in his miracles (pardon: in REPORTS ABOUT MIRACLES - there's a
fine but importand distinction!) and in his divinity, i forgot about the
question, or was rather rationalizing it probably the same ways most
devotees do... Now i see how right i was (to be suspicious of his
playing on people's material cravings, like gold)I heard about alleged
sexual molestations about a year or two ago, but although i was by then
already allowing the possibility of that being true, i didn't want to
know more, because i thought it can perhaps also be explained in other
ways (like the default kundalini theory)... and i thought "i'll probably
never know anyway so why make myself more confused" Let me note, that
although in the height of my belief in SB (~10 yrs ago) i w
Date: Fri Mar 26 10:16:21 2004
you have got to be joking. If you don't like this site then don't look
at it. However, do not make blanket accusations against the webmasters
of this site or its contents without being fully apprised of the same.
Date: Mon Mar 22 16:37:28 2004
Do me a
favour. Go to the nearest video shop, take the movie ' DEVIL'S ADVOCATE
' and see if you haven't see yet. You will find how much relate to Sai
Date: Mon Mar 22 16:16:52 2004
I had lot of problems but never Sai Baba so-called God didn't do any
help. Without asking come and do help when needed is God. Come and do
help when we ask is man. Don't do any help or make things worse when we
ask and needed is Devil. According to first I saw only a humble road
cleaner in New Zealand when I was living in bus stand. Sai Baba is
coming under the third category with some of others
Date: Mon Mar 22 14:03:11 2004
has helped and still helps millions of people. The real monsters are the
people behind this site.
Date: Thu Mar 18 18:48:57 2004
humble opinion I think they are helping Baba to go inwards and face what
Monster he really is...
Date: Thu Mar 18 14:00:31 2004
humble opinion the owners of this site are just disgusting slandereres.
None of the allegations has been proved. Possibily terrible karmic
consequences on you.
Date: Thu Mar 11 15:51:13 2004
Hello LC I
also didn't believe him and hated him in the first place that was my
first impression. My misfortune I was interested in bajan and Krishna,
by those I fallen into his trap. And also for my personal problem with
my ex husband Subaji, I thought he is trying to help me. Like this so
many people are. But intelligent & brave realized quickly and left him.
Date: Thu Mar 11 7:24:10 2004
eye opener...Shocking revalations!!!!I knew all along he was evil...and
never ever believed him.Something in me told me he was ver very
bad...and has a lot of skelotons in his closet.Forget him, I cannot
believe that so many people have faith in him..Cant they use their
brains and think??? Arent these guys educated???Heard of digging ones on
Innaiah N (email@example.com)
Date: Tue Mar 09 18:38:39 2004
Sai Baba is divine, and can cure diseases, where is the need to
construct hospitals in Puttaparti? It must be an eye opener to the
devotees that Satya Sai cannot cure any disease with miracle power. Is
Prasanti Nilayam at Puttaparti devoted to spread spiritualism, peace and
harmony? If so, where is the need for secrecy? Why dont they allow video
camaras, films, photos,and free movement within the ashram? The fact
that the video films are banned, proves that some thing clandestine,
secret things are going on. Why doesn't Satya Sai Baba ask the Police
and authorities to investigate into the murders that occured in the
Ashram during 1993 if he is not afraid of the probe? Is there
transparency of money and accounting of the ashram? If so why cannot
they publish it in websites and in their magazines, including the names
of persons who donated?
Date: Sun Mar 07 15:49:05 2004
hi, I live
in poland and I would to know why India police or world police
(interpol, FBI)do nothingh with this case?why are you fight only on
website,you must do something new and fresh with this "war" let me know
on my e-mail firstname.lastname@example.org. you should hit in goverment in all countrys
Date: Sun Mar 07 15:20:44 2004
understand why people, even those who can think rationally, at times
become victims to such morally degraded and mentally sick persons like
SSB. why would people forget their own glory, glory of being a human,
and pander to another degraded, sexually disoriented sub-human like SSB.
He is an infection to the minds of millions of "ardent" devotees and has
to be eliminated(killed). people should be first taught to kill him in
their minds, and as a punishment for his misdeeds, he should be
murdered. it's true that india has a wealth of spritual knowledge worth
exploring, but true spritual pursuit never compromises rationalism and
reason and never involves any blind belief.
Date: Sun Mar 07 5:25:59 2004
these: 2 - he's a con artist. 3 - he has a psychological disorder which
makes him think he's god... because if he was God his peaceful influence
would have reached the world, and since my neighbor never heard of him I
don't think he is God.
You'd like to know...wouldn't you?
Date: Sat Mar 06 2:29:44 2004
So Sai says
he's god. In an enormous world, full of problems, he decides to show up
in India. He says he's here to make a Christian better, a Muslim better
etc...yet he makes claims that contradict both religions. He shows up
with a bunch of magic tricks and he says this is his proof that he's
god. He exploits believers so he can fool around with little boys. I
propose three possiblites: 1 - he is god. 2 - he's a con artist. 3 - he
has a psychological disorder which makes him think he's god....you have
to admit...it has to be one of these.
Date: Fri Mar 05 5:50:05 2004
the Truth is that Baba has performed sex on male minors...
Date: Thu Mar 04 16:52:09 2004
The Truth is always Truth... ;)
Date: Tue Mar 02 9:35:09 2004
Singh is a
liar. "About 90 millions of printed pages"? Did he actually count them,
has he got them all? This is another bluff, a typical case of Sai Baba
number mysticism: 'think of any two numbers, multiply them together and
add any number of zeros'. Talk about a loser argument!!
Date: Mon Mar 01 21:36:17 2004
counting pages... just a few words are necessary to characterize Baba;
fraud, child molester, magician, liar... watch the last movie of this
loser on News...
Date: Sun Feb 29 6:26:51 2004
pages? There are about 90 millions of printed pages that testifies the
divinity and the Sai miracles around the world. The anti Sai are loser
Home Page: http://innaiahn.tripod.com
Date: Sat Feb 28 22:36:11 2004
is very educative. It opens the eyes of believers. Critical attitude
towards fraud guru SaiBaba will discourage youth from falling into the
trap of Sai Baba in future.
VICTIM OF Sai LEELA
Date: Sat Feb 28 18:03:19 2004
I READ SOME
ONE TALKING OF HIS MIRACLES. HOW MANY OF THEMDID YOU SEE DIRECTLY. AS
FAR AS CREATING WE KNOW HOW HE DOES. DO YOU WANT THE SUPPLIER'S NAME
(GOLD AND SILVER JWELLS) IT IS ASWATHNARAYANA OF ANANTAPUR. OF COURSE
YOU FELLAS ARE NOT BOTHERED BECAUSE IF Baba MOLESTS SOME ONE YOU ARE NOT
For Dumbo Samuel
Date: Fri Feb 27 18:31:18 2004
read dumbo Samuel? 30.000 printed pages proof are on this site!
Date: Fri Feb 27 13:24:51 2004
the PROOFS about the so-called "sexual abuses"? Connie Larsson had
mental troubles and he acknowledges to be homosexual. There are many
allegations and calumnies, but there are no real "victims".
Date: Fri Feb 27 5:24:28 2004
Nick... evidence enough, and if you want the id's, why not just contact
the editors huh?
Date: Tue Feb 24 18:54:37 2004
is full of lies and anonymous allegations. No proofs at all. I don't
believe in these men. This is a VERY BAD WORK.